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Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:12:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:You are doing it again telling me stories only ...
Welcome to the IGS Ms. Sebiestar. Tib does indeed make a habit of piling assertion on assertion, rarely backing it with any evidence that stands up to even the slightest of considered scrutiny. When called on it, he invariably retreats into his fortress of 'logic' but having sorted through those arguments more than a few times I'm not entirely convinced he's using the word right.
We excuse him his eccentricities, of course, as he still maintains the facade of being everyone's loveable, doddering uncle who truly, really means no harm and just wants us all to live in peace and harmony.
There was of course that customs office in Perbhe a few months back which he took part in the destruction of. I'm sure he can justify the deaths or abductions of the customs workers there, of course. They were probably shaking their fists at his capsuleer controlled space-ship and gesturing threateningly or some such. Down with the oppressors and all that.
I'm sure it was only coincidence that a Nation loyalist owned office and planetary infrastructure went up on the planet a few hours later. I'm sure he and his band of noble peace-seekers aren't using those facilities for anything as banal as lowering taxes to optimise profit-based outcomes.
And given his generous and emotive use of the term 'we' when describing the great fiction of Nation persecution, I'm sure we will - at some point - see him bravely taking up arms with his fellows in the Nation incursions. Rather than just giving lip service from afar to his belief in Sansha's unity, that is. |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:03:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Wait. Hold on. Are you seriously going to start saying that I'm evil because we replaced an interbus customs office with one of our own? Really?
Good? Evil? That's a little too black and white for me.
No, Tib. I'm saying that you - like the rest of us - are 'greed motivated', something you routinely criticise others for. A point which is confirmed by comments later in your same post and Ghost's also. In this thread you've stated or implied all you wish to do is peacefully co-exist and be allowed to pursue your own beliefs, but this conclusively establishes you as aggressors going about the 'relatively routine transactions' of day-to-day capsuleer business simply for the sake of saving a few ISK. Oh, the transhumanity ...
Quote:Less benevolent was the pirate organization which later destroyed that particular customs office themselves, with a much larger fleet, leaving much less time for the crew to escape.
And I should believe you evacuated the customs office but these guys didn't? Pot, meet kettle. I'm sure I don't need to say that you have no proof one way or the other to support your claims, do you?
Quote:The second we can aid the incursions without CONCORD immediately jumping on us, blowing us up, and then sitting there doing nothing about the incursion they just jumped in on, you will see me out there, flying against anti-incursion fleets. At the moment, our efforts are better applied elsewhere.
Can I perhaps suggest a change of tactical perspective? To my knowledge, incursions also take place in low- and null-sec space - areas where CONCORD's interference with anyone wishing to defend Nation as they go about their attempts to pillage and burn their way towards Unity is far more limited. Shifting your focus of operations to these theatres from the relatively incursion-free backwaters of western Kor-Azor might allow you to continue to fly the Sansha banner high while also helping to address the fear you have of what CONCORD will do to your shiny ships.
After all, where there's a will there's a way. And you are so very fond of spouting off endlessly about the superior will of Nation. |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:28:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:I'm dissapointed, Ollie. Usually you don't fall to this level of pettiness. We widely considered you one of the wisest members of SYNE. This is no longer the case, after this.
If pettiness is bringing to light the false foundations your assertions are based on and exposing your justifications and proclaimed ideology for the brittle things they are, count me happy to disappoint Tib.
While not as obvious or prevalent as those occurring in high-sec, some incursions in lower security space are indeed contested. There are any number of public comm channels which make monitoring of these efforts quite simple.
Sophistry aside it simply comes down to the conviction of your beliefs. You can either continue to hide behind the fear of CONCORD blowing you up in high-sec or you can seek out those incursions that are occurring farther from their scrutiny and make your mark there.
Or you can continue to mine, operate planetary facilities, run agent missions and pick off capsuleer targets of opportunity for ISK and loot in your current theatre of operations. Just like your regular run-of-the-mill capsuleer types. |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:09:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:We revere life above all things, rescue people who ask for it, and have no plans for a cultural genocide.
Slave Endoma01 wrote:113.07.30 03:25:13 Slave Endoma01: Arek'Jaalan will burn with the rest of New Eden!
Conceivably, Kuvakei's dream of Unity may be a falsehood and there may be rogue elements within the ranks of his most trusted commanders.
But if not, then Endoma's statement is to be viewed as a direct extension of 'the Master's' own goals and certainly makes your own denial of his genocidal desires seem somewhat hollow. |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:31:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:We ... have no plans for a cultural genocide.
113.07.30 03:25:13 Slave Endoma01: Arek'Jaalan will burn with the rest of New Eden!
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:It certaintly is the current game plan.
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:We are not war mongerers. We want peace in New Eden, and we want there to be life in New Eden until past the natural end of all things.
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Try to stop us, and we will burn your empires to the ground ...
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:The fact that you have such a hard time understanding this absolutely confounds me
I'm relatively sure I'm not the only one having difficulties reconciling the radically conflicting views of your own internal dialogue.
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Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:47:00 -
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Now that the thread has largely turned its eyes towards Tib's duplicitous Jekyll and Hyde shuffle - "Cultural Genocide? No, no, no ... We'll burn you down, we love peace so" ** - anyone wishing to contribute intel on the original post's observations is encouraged to contact myself or N'maro Makari through the usual channels or at the Seyllin conference this weekend.
** (( With apologies to Maurice Sendak )) |
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